What’s in a Pedigree?

At the farm tours there was a fair bit of discussion about sires (dads) and dams (moms). A horse’s family tree is referred to as it’s “Pedigree.”

Pedigree plays a significant role in racing and a horse’s propensity towards certain surfaces and distances.

While, we lost Charlie to the claim, I’ve kept his information in this blog as a point of comparison. Charlie Thomas and Tribal Waters are two horses with significantly different pedigrees.

charlie thomas_pedigree

The Sire is always on the top side of the pedigree and the dam is on the bottom. Charlie Thomas’ sire is Seeking The Dia and the dam is Champion Ride.

Seeking the dia

Seeking The Dia

Seeking The Dia won over $5 million dollars in his career and had a record of 7-9-2 from 30 career starts and was a prominent runner in Japan. He also was the leading money earner sired by Storm Cat. He stood at Hill N Dale farm in Kentucky in 2009-2010, which is when Champion Ride went to be bred in 2010, resulting in Charlie Thomas being born March 2, 2011.

Seeking the Dia’s sire is Storm Cat. One of the most influential sires in modern day.  The following came from The Blood-Horse article regarding Storm Cat’s death in 2013:

Storm Cat retired from racing in 1987 to stand at Overbrook Farm. After breeding his first book of mares in 1988 at a fee of $30,000, he spent 20 years at stud during a career that saw his fee rise to as high as $500,000.

According to Overbrook, Storm Cat sired earners of more than $127 million, eight champions, and 108 graded stakes winners including winners of the Preakness Stakes (gr. I), Belmont Stakes (gr. I), Kentucky Oaks (gr. I), and five Breeders’ Cup races. He ranked second on the all-time Breeders’ Cup sire list and was the sire of numerous European group I winners. He topped the general sire list twice, the juvenile sire list a record seven times, and was leading broodmare sire in 2012.

Of his yearlings, 462 sold at public auction for over $319 million, including 91 yearlings which brought $1 million or more. By comparison, his grandsire Northern Dancer ranked second with 52 yearlings which brought $1 million or more, according to Overbrook.

Quite an impressive sire line for Charlie!

Charlie’s dam, Champion Ride won one race in two starts and was bred by Sidney and Jenny Craig (yes, that Jenny Craig). Champion Ride’s sire is Candy Ride. Currently Candy Ride is #2 on the General Sire list in North America and stands for a stud fee of $60,000.

There’s a saying in racing that you “breed the best to the best and hope for the best.” Charlie has strong breeding on both his sire and dam side and we’ve seen it play out in his success on the racetrack.

Tribal Waters has a bit of a more modest pedigree, even though you see Storm Cat in his pedigree as well.


Tribal Waters is sired by Tribal Rule who is sired by Storm Cat. Tribal Rule could be considered more of a regional stallion and had a career record of 4 starts, 2 wins and 2 seconds. He earned $77,600 in his racing career.

Tribal Rule

Tribal Rule

Tribal Rule passed away in 2014, but according to the Daily Racing Form:

Tribal Rule was versatile at stud, finishing at or near the top of the California sire lists in multiple categories during the past several years. He also gained national notice as a prominent sire of synthetic-surface runners, finishing fourth among North American sires in that category last year and leading the synthetic list this year through May 1 with progeny earnings of over $540,000.

Tribal Rule also led the California general sire list for 2014 through May 1, with progeny earnings of over $1.68 million. His runners overall have bankrolled more than $21 million.

His leading runners include Grade 1 winner Georgie Boy, Grade 2 winners Ciao Bella Luna and Ethnic Dance, Grade 3 winners Alphie’s Bet and Tribal Spy, and Grade 1-placed Rush With Thunder.

Tribal Waters dam is Rio Tejo, who earned honors as the 2003/2004 Broodmare of the Year in California.

Rio Tejo

You can see a bit of family resemble, don’t you think?


Claiming Game

We are on the hunt for another horse for the club. Given that Larry Ross is back at Emerald Downs and isn’t in California, we will only be considering horses at Emerald Downs. We may also consider claiming Charlie back.

This decision will be left to our trainers and we will post a blog after a claim is made just like when we acquired Charlie.

Tribal Waters Update

There is currently no race for TW in the condition book for this weekend. We are continuing to look for a race for him.


A special “Good Luck” to American Pharoah in Saturday’s Belmont Stakes from the Emerald Racing Club! Go get ’em!



20 thoughts on “What’s in a Pedigree?

  1. For Tribal Waters, are we looking for something like a $10,000 NW2 or would we consider an open claiming race? As far as claiming a horse, I vote for Parkers Bluff! He is so much fun to watch, or Lizzy Lass, she’s got heart too. 🙂

  2. What distance are they thinking tribal waters is best over? He seems like he’s done his best around 5½ furlongs, just wondered what distance we’re looking at.

    • Per his past performances, he’s had his best success going 5 1/2 furlongs. However, previous trainers never experimented to see if he could be stretched out. So it’s hard to say if he’s got another dimension or if he’s strictly a one-turn horse.

      We would likely look at 6 furlongs. Very few races at 5 1/2 for older horses.

      • Awesome! Reading through all of his charts it doesn’t look like he’s hardly ever had a ground saving run either. It seems that 4 wide and never rallied is a pretty repetitive remark. Makes me wonder if he just waiting to close and as other horses tire that 6-6½ furlongs might be right in his wheel house. Maybe a longer distance and a clean ride is all he’s waiting on to be a little rock star.

  3. Obviously Charlie was claimed but is his Condition proprietary? He seemed to cool out well, Did he come out of the race healthy and how’s he liking his new Owners? We never got to meet Charlie so I know my son would love to visit him? I know it may be a strange request but if there was a way to facilitate that my son would be eternally grateful. Its hard to explain to a 9 year old boy that it’s just part of the business so if his new owners would allow a barn visit it sure would make a little boy happy.

  4. Sophia…….Boohoo so sad yo lose Charlie and he was beautiful too. I hope we find as nice a horse as Charlie and one with potential. Sheila Berg

  5. Sophia- Would we consider Claiming Money Cat out of the fifth in tonights’ race? It looks like he’s got a pretty good pedigree and I wouldn’t mind claiming on of Franks’ horses. At $4,000 it would give us a horse to put up against Charlie. Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 19:41:57 +0000 To: milttremblay@hotmail.com

  6. There are several horses in the 7th race Saturday that look good. Diamonds Dena is a 4 y/o filly with 3 wins in 12 starts. She won her last race here in May @ 6.5 furlongs. The claiming price is 10K.
    Kandra also has 3 wins in 12 starts, with 2 of the wins here @ ED in last years meet. She has been 2nd twice so far this year here @ ED. She is a 5 y/o filly & her claiming price is 10K

    PS. Krazy for Kugel also looks good in the same race.

    Thoughts anyone??

    • I’ll have to wait until tomorrow to think about possibilities for our club’s next claim. I hear that a pretty nice horse won a big race at Belmont Park a little over an hour ago, and it’s creating quite a hullabaloo. 🙂

      • Diamonds Dena won easily in the 7th @ a mile. She went off at 5/2 & looked really good winning her 2nd race in a row @ the distance. Would be nice if we dropped a claim on a proven winner.

  7. There is another great looking horse running in the 8th race this Saturday. His name is Perfectly Legal, he is a 5 y/o gelding with 5 wins in 15 starts. Three wins so far this year, with 2 of them here @ ED & the 3rd @ Portland Meadows. He broke his maiden @ Santa Anita in early 2014, so he has won at several different tracks. The claiming price is 10K. Sophia could you please let me know if we are looking at this horse, & if not, why?
    Thank You.
    Rick Dalzell

  8. Sophia, I noticed there was race in the condition book perfect for TW this Saturday. I’m assuming he was entered and once again it didn’t fill. What do we do if this keeps happening? I never imagined finding a race could be so difficult!

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